This game is an absolute masterpiece! Wish some of the hotter scenes were more animated, but story 5* characters 5* art 5* anyone reading this...welcome to easily one of the best VNs on Itch
Pale Carnations, Ripples, Oialt, Dungeon Days. All are free, although Pale Carnations doesn't have an Itch page, you can download it off their patreon.
There's moments of dialogue that are in Spanish, if they're not translated it's because you're expected to guess what's being said rather than really know. If you mean a translation patch, then there's one up to chapter 10 on the Discord.
The game looks astounding visually. But I have to ask since it's make or break for me personally with VNs. Does this have animated H-scenes? if so, where they added later and the early content hasn't been updated or is it all just standstill images with flashy effects? If it is all just still images, are there plans to animate in the future? Also is the way the download is formatted on Android really necessary? I feel like there has to be a better way since NO other VNs' were done the same way.
There are currently no animated H-scenes. We have a funding goal for them, but as of right now no.
You may be surprised to learn that more games do very similar methods to us for their Android builds. Being A Dik is probably the most well known.
Android .apks have an inherent limit of 2gb, and going over that for an Android app requires either direct download capability (which as an indie game, we don't have) or a multi-asset package system like we have now. It was either this or no Android build at all.
The project is closing in on that funding goal, and not only that, once the goal is reached all of the current scenes are going to be animated (so not just from the funding point on)
The game has a ton of foreshadowing and you notice if you pay attention, just like a good book, and there is a ton of replay value.
Give it a shot, and once the funding goal is reached and the scenes are animated, play again, you'll notice all of the cool things you missed and enjoy the animations
Will you be continuing the story soon, or forgoing it to develop the animations? I can honestly wait on animations to keep more new story coming but that's just me
I will not be delaying new content to implement animations. Instead, if we hit that goal we will go back and add animations to h-scenes in chronological order until we have caught up (since they’re such an important first impression) while still releasing monthly updates as normal.
Recently just started playing and absolutely loving it. Im up to chapter 19 but somehow I'm missing the chp 18 scene (in gallery), I never saw it. Have I missed something?
There are choices in the game that do have impacts that are only obvious much later. But you're not going to get to pick what colour socks CJ wears each day.
I am stuck in the "sunny kamogawa city" screen thing and it doesn't show me where to go or anything to do I am in chapter 36 I think and I just finished the area in the city where you do the character's sides. i did them all and now it doesn't tell me what to do or where to go. what am i suppose to do?
First of all your game is literally the best game I have ever played it's so amazing I truly love it thank you. but can I please know the instructions on how to do that I did download the update file but I am not sure how to make it work cause when I opened it it said that it was missing files so how am I supposed to do that?
Thank you very much for splitting into many parts. Had way too many android games get lost halfway through installation processes when they are too big. This really helps. I wish more people did this. I'm a sucker for long good stories so I'm really hyped to try this out! Can't believe I missed this for so long. Keep up the good work all of you!
One of the reasons it was missed was low exposure, which is getting better. Make sure to take a moment and rate the game to ensure more people get a chance to see it!
So if I'm getting this right, I have to install all the installers, install the assets with them, and then install the main APK?
What about the asset package ch39?
Also, am I allowed to uninstall the installers after installing the assets in the installers? Will uninstalling anything make the assets no longer functional?
I'm trying to save on space here dude, and using up all these GBs is killing my phone.
You need to install all 4 of the main packages if it's your first time, the update one is only for returning players. This is what you do with each installer: usually you install package -> open it -> press install inside it and wait for it to complete -> close app -> (optional - saves space) remove package app -> repeat with other packages -> install main apk and run the game So yes you can delete the the package apps after installing their assets although you will then have to redownload them if you failed to install them correctly
I made an account to write this: I want to say, I don't know how the rest of the game will go, hence me im only a minute in but I already have chills. Never felt that before EVER on a game from itch. Props to the dev, cant wait to start it! (sorry if this came out cheesy lmao)
I can't run the app, is the instruction wrong. first I install package1.apk and open it after that I install image1 and 2 are in it after that I install oot-android-2.70.1.apk after install I run it and there is a missing textfiles warning am I wrong? please the solution do you have a video tutorial ?
You install OoTAndroidAssetPackage1.apk OoTAndroidAssetPackage2.apk OoTAndroidAssetPackage3.apk OoTAndroidAssetPackage4.apk When you open those asset packages after installing they should all look like this
After that you should be able to download Out_of_Touch_v2.70.1.apk and run the game with it. If you're still unable to get it to work the best place to get talked through it is the Discord
You can find some of the commissioned music here https://www.youtube.com/@Farcrine A lot of it is also from Phoenix #2772, but if you want the link to a specific song the easiest thing is just to ask on the discord
I'd like to congratulate Story Anon on making a game where I don't have much decision over the story and the fact actually makes my stomach turn. I never knew just have to click to the next chapter could make me so terrified of what'll happen.
Mr/Ms. Devs you have given me joy, you have given me pleasure, you have given me laughter, you have given me tears, you have made me feel emotions i did not know i could feel from a game. however i do not have the ability to give you proper thanks outside of words, so i thank you i truly do thank you and i hope you continue to make amazing updates to this game and once again thank you. Ham 2
Glad you enjoyed it, If you can't afford to donate through patreon, rating on Itch and recommending it to people is always helpful. Hope you enjoy Chapter 39 part 2 when it comes out tomorrow .
If you can't support financially, that's ok, but make sure to rate the game! you can also talk about it if you're a part of any appropriate communities
If you are bored with "slice of life" AVNs, this is perfect for you. Out of Touch is truly a trip-show for those who wish to no longer be grounded in reality for a few hours. The writing in truly amazing, with monologue galore shedding light on the characters and their personalities, dreams and desires in life, making them very easy to get attached to. The music is one of the best parts of this game, being inspired by 80s synth. Out of Touch is a crazy wild ride with hours of content, giving new and well-executed routes of what an AVN can be. 5 stars.
The funny thing about this AVN is that initially there was a bait and switch, right up to the new prologue rework. it looked like a slice of life game and that's what you thought you were getting, but nope... big nope!
Make sure to rate the game, it really helps. and join us on discord, you'd fit right in!
Heyho i guess I have a small brain moment rn... i just found this game and tried to play it but i cant... "0/0 bundles loaded" where are those bundles and how can I install those? ^^ (Im on pc btw)
Make sure you've downloaded the full PC version, it should be 7.5 GB for context. Aside from that make sure your folder name doesn't contain any non-ascii symbols, it seems some unicode characters like nbsp break unity bundle loader.
Huh... well... I downloaded the full PC version and removed those ascii (or non ascii) symbols from the folder "OoT_Data" like those "~" ( I didn't found any other symbols so far so xd) and still it says 0/0 bundles :/
No the non ascii symbols was about things in your file path before the "Out of Touch", the ones that come with the game are obviously fine and needed because otherwise no one's game would work. Your best bet to get it working is to go on the discord and post screenshots.
Ohhh my this is a master piece cant wait for future updates. But 1 thing. I made it all the way to chapter 38 finished it but not all my extras have saved what do i do?
Its rare to see a game, especially a H-Visual Novel games to be created using Unity Engine, most of H-Visual Novel games out there are created using Renpy because its much lighter and easier, also a fighting mechanic actually sounds really awesome but sadly its incomplete as for current updates, like you know, i want to bully that Cro girl through fighting, i like it also since its 3d, but i find it hillarious that the animation of the characters movement are a bit sluggy. Overall great games and stories aside from the horror and sex scene. Looking forward for future updates.
A psychedelic trip with a very interesting lore (with many supernatural stuff, time shenanigans,...) that is introduced slowly, but with a lot of foreshadowing.... once you will have played it once, you will want to replay it again and again to catch all those hints ! The sex scenes are late to come because they always fit in the history and make it advance, but when they come that does strengthen massively their impact, and they are absolutely amazing.
A main theme of the game is about overcoming one's traumas. So it's an emotional rollercoaster, but in a very healthy way because, how dark some passages may be - and God now some are dark - at the end of the way there is always light at the end of the tunnel, and some characters we begin hating the most finish being the most lovable once they have overcomed the traumas that made them act so badly... The MC is a very wholesome and caring person, who always see the best in everyone, and will always put the others ones good before his, willing to take the worst risks to save them, in all the acceptations of this word... And the art ! It begin as very, very good... but the author goes on learning as the game progress, and the progression is awesome, the last chapters are really, visually speaking, a masterpiece ! But this is not only the case for the visual aspect, it's the only word I can find to describe this game :
A masterpiece !
There's about 20 sex scenes currently in the game, most are from chapter 23 onwards. The character development has to get to the point where the sex makes sense, but after it hits that point it's constant.
The new Prologue (you may have missed it by just a few days) already has sex, so right at the start. than we get some world building and from about chapters 15-18, there's tons of sex n shit.
Awesome to see one of my favorites so high on the Popular tab for Visual Novels tagged with Adult. Even more awesome to see it surpass not only Eternum but Harem Hotel too since those are usually always up there in the same spots!
That update file is for PC and Mac so just extract it and place the folders over your existing OoT 2.57ish folder. Be aware that due to a lot of bug fixes most of the time it's better to just do a fresh install.
god you are just pure fuckin comedic gold "all i did was find the inviting assholes of the screwer and give them the long pegging of the law" epic jamie moment.
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This game is an absolute masterpiece! Wish some of the hotter scenes were more animated, but story 5* characters 5* art 5* anyone reading this...welcome to easily one of the best VNs on Itch
any other good VNs recommendations you have on itch besides the obvious ones like this and eturnium?
Pale Carnations, Ripples, Oialt, Dungeon Days.
All are free, although Pale Carnations doesn't have an Itch page, you can download it off their patreon.
thanks man
There's a lot that I follow but one worth checking out and that I think you'd enjoy is Crimson High.
Oh yeah Crimson High is fantastic. Started playing it recently. Do you have a list of roughly like 2-3? Sorry if this is a little excessive
One Nennius didn't mention is "the headmaster" which is another of my personal favorites
One I recently found pretty good was Lust Harem by Xiongmao. Has a fairly interesting combat system and very well written character personalities.
Love this game. Keep up the great work!!
Join us on the discord! and please make sure to rate it! it'll help with making sure more people see it.
it has Spanish language?
There's moments of dialogue that are in Spanish, if they're not translated it's because you're expected to guess what's being said rather than really know.
If you mean a translation patch, then there's one up to chapter 10 on the Discord.
The game looks astounding visually. But I have to ask since it's make or break for me personally with VNs. Does this have animated H-scenes? if so, where they added later and the early content hasn't been updated or is it all just standstill images with flashy effects? If it is all just still images, are there plans to animate in the future? Also is the way the download is formatted on Android really necessary? I feel like there has to be a better way since NO other VNs' were done the same way.
There are currently no animated H-scenes. We have a funding goal for them, but as of right now no.
You may be surprised to learn that more games do very similar methods to us for their Android builds. Being A Dik is probably the most well known.
Android .apks have an inherent limit of 2gb, and going over that for an Android app requires either direct download capability (which as an indie game, we don't have) or a multi-asset package system like we have now. It was either this or no Android build at all.
I mean that's fair. I have no idea how big the game actually is, if it can even be compressed to under 2gb
The game is currently about 30,000 renders and roughly 30 hours of content, with 60 more chapters to come. It's just big.
How big would the game be if the files weren't conpressed?
If they were still raw PNGs, the game would be probably 5-7 times as large as it is now.
The project is closing in on that funding goal, and not only that, once the goal is reached all of the current scenes are going to be animated (so not just from the funding point on)
The game has a ton of foreshadowing and you notice if you pay attention, just like a good book, and there is a ton of replay value.
Give it a shot, and once the funding goal is reached and the scenes are animated, play again, you'll notice all of the cool things you missed and enjoy the animations
Will you be continuing the story soon, or forgoing it to develop the animations? I can honestly wait on animations to keep more new story coming but that's just me
I will not be delaying new content to implement animations. Instead, if we hit that goal we will go back and add animations to h-scenes in chronological order until we have caught up (since they’re such an important first impression) while still releasing monthly updates as normal.
This is one of the best story based visual novels I've seen in years. If you want a fantastic story this is it.
We love it too! make sure to rate it! it'll help with making sure more people see it.
how do i open the gallery
In the main menu go Extras -> Gallery
wait that isnt an option on mine tho like there is extras option
You're playing a very out of date version of the game if the button isn't there.
which one do i download then
All of the build options on our itch page right now are completely up to date.
Recently just started playing and absolutely loving it. Im up to chapter 19 but somehow I'm missing the chp 18 scene (in gallery), I never saw it. Have I missed something?
You need to visit most of the town with Vic in Ch7 to get her scene in Ch18.
You're in a for a wild ride.
Make sure you rate the game if you love it!
It looked good but I like making choices but this is a book not a game so... shame it looked good too
There are choices in the game that do have impacts that are only obvious much later.
But you're not going to get to pick what colour socks CJ wears each day.
if their is great but after 20 mins of reading found nothing ill try it again but I'm not going to hold my breath
You're 20 minutes into a 32+ hour game mate, but if you're looking for some huge branching path story then yeah, this ain't it
Of course it’s a book. It’s labeled a visual novel.
I am stuck in the "sunny kamogawa city" screen thing and it doesn't show me where to go or anything to do I am in chapter 36 I think and I just finished the area in the city where you do the character's sides. i did them all and now it doesn't tell me what to do or where to go. what am i suppose to do?
You’re still on last month’s update and need to update to the full version of Chapter 39.
First of all your game is literally the best game I have ever played it's so amazing I truly love it thank you. but can I please know the instructions on how to do that I did download the update file but I am not sure how to make it work cause when I opened it it said that it was missing files so how am I supposed to do that?
Just take the contents of the update zip and drag-and-drop them into your main OoT game folder, overwriting when prompted. Very easy.
Alright thank you so much
Why are the APKs so big?! I can't afford to keep nearly 5.5 GBs downloaded.
There are over 30,000 renders in game currently and the game is about 30 hours long as of now. It’s just a big VN.
Thank you very much for splitting into many parts. Had way too many android games get lost halfway through installation processes when they are too big. This really helps. I wish more people did this. I'm a sucker for long good stories so I'm really hyped to try this out! Can't believe I missed this for so long. Keep up the good work all of you!
Thank you, hope you enjoy it!
One of the reasons it was missed was low exposure, which is getting better. Make sure to take a moment and rate the game to ensure more people get a chance to see it!
So if I'm getting this right, I have to install all the installers, install the assets with them, and then install the main APK?
What about the asset package ch39?
Also, am I allowed to uninstall the installers after installing the assets in the installers? Will uninstalling anything make the assets no longer functional?
I'm trying to save on space here dude, and using up all these GBs is killing my phone.
You need to install all 4 of the main packages if it's your first time, the update one is only for returning players.
This is what you do with each installer:
usually you install package -> open it -> press install inside it and wait for it to complete -> close app -> (optional - saves space) remove package app -> repeat with other packages -> install main apk and run the game
So yes you can delete the the package apps after installing their assets although you will then have to redownload them if you failed to install them correctly
I made an account to write this: I want to say, I don't know how the rest of the game will go, hence me im only a minute in but I already have chills. Never felt that before EVER on a game from itch. Props to the dev, cant wait to start it! (sorry if this came out cheesy lmao)
Thank you!
An important thing you can do to support the game is take a moment to rate it! and join us on the discord, its super fun
I can't run the app, is the instruction wrong. first I install package1.apk and open it after that I install image1 and 2 are in it after that I install oot-android-2.70.1.apk after install I run it and there is a missing textfiles warning am I wrong? please the solution do you have a video tutorial ?
You install
OoTAndroidAssetPackage1.apk
OoTAndroidAssetPackage2.apk
OoTAndroidAssetPackage3.apk
OoTAndroidAssetPackage4.apk
When you open those asset packages after installing they should all look like this
After that you should be able to download Out_of_Touch_v2.70.1.apk and run the game with it.
If you're still unable to get it to work the best place to get talked through it is the Discord
discord link has expired can you send it again.
missing bundles:
-textfiles
Make sure the 4th one is installed properly, that's the one with the textfiles
Which one?
The one on Itch should still be working
https://discord.gg/outoftouch
This is probably your issue joining, and how to fix it
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500005292701-Accessing-an-Age-Restricted-Server-FAQ#:~:text=Sign%20in%20to%20Discord%20on,iOS%E2%80%9D%20and%20click%20the%20toggle.
But as I said if you're missing the "textfiles" bundle it means your 4th installer isn't downloaded and/or installed correctly
I love it! Is there a playlist with the soundtrack?
You can find some of the commissioned music here
https://www.youtube.com/@Farcrine
A lot of it is also from Phoenix #2772, but if you want the link to a specific song the easiest thing is just to ask on the discord
I'd like to congratulate Story Anon on making a game where I don't have much decision over the story and the fact actually makes my stomach turn. I never knew just have to click to the next chapter could make me so terrified of what'll happen.
I feel the same way!
please take a second to rate the game if you liked it!
I'm on Chapter 11 and this shit is a genuine acid trip and I'm loving it. Great plot, great game, great designs. Good job, Dev.
Don't forget to rate the game! its big support for the Dev
g-g-gianni??
Gianni rated the game on Itch (probably?), did you? ;)
Wow, wasn't expecting such great story!
Genuinely can't wait for the next updates
Amazing world and character building
And you don’t have to wait long! The new update comes out in roughly a few hours!
Make sure you join us on Discord for fun discussions and theories
and also please rate the game
Mr/Ms. Devs you have given me joy, you have given me pleasure, you have given me laughter, you have given me tears, you have made me feel emotions i did not know i could feel from a game. however i do not have the ability to give you proper thanks outside of words, so i thank you i truly do thank you and i hope you continue to make amazing updates to this game and once again thank you. Ham 2
Glad you enjoyed it, If you can't afford to donate through patreon, rating on Itch and recommending it to people is always helpful.
Hope you enjoy Chapter 39 part 2 when it comes out tomorrow .
Thank you!
If you can't support financially, that's ok, but make sure to rate the game! you can also talk about it if you're a part of any appropriate communities
Do I have to download all the packages??
Yes
I love this game
Than rate it!
If you are bored with "slice of life" AVNs, this is perfect for you. Out of Touch is truly a trip-show for those who wish to no longer be grounded in reality for a few hours. The writing in truly amazing, with monologue galore shedding light on the characters and their personalities, dreams and desires in life, making them very easy to get attached to. The music is one of the best parts of this game, being inspired by 80s synth.
Out of Touch is a crazy wild ride with hours of content, giving new and well-executed routes of what an AVN can be. 5 stars.
The funny thing about this AVN is that initially there was a bait and switch, right up to the new prologue rework. it looked like a slice of life game and that's what you thought you were getting, but nope... big nope!
Make sure to rate the game, it really helps.
and join us on discord, you'd fit right in!
Already on the discord and rated :D
i loved this game so much it keeps my heart racing in a good keep doing your thing i loved this game
Please make sure to rate it! it will help the author very much
Hi, I already installed assets 1-4. And it said missing texfiles. So, i installed the update only asset. It still stucked. May I have the answers
If it says missing texfiles, you may have not installed all four asset bundles correctly.
it says here that I'm missing one bundle which is the Voice 1, where can i get it on Android? I've installed all the assets from 1-4
minor mistake on our part, just install the Ch0UpdateONLY.apk as well.
Fixed! Now back to only needing assets 1-4
Heyho i guess I have a small brain moment rn... i just found this game and tried to play it but i cant... "0/0 bundles loaded" where are those bundles and how can I install those? ^^ (Im on pc btw)
Sounds like you downloaded an update patch instead of the full game.
The update patches are only for people who have the game downloaded and just want the newest content.
That way they don't have to redownload the whole game every month.
Make sure you've downloaded the full PC version, it should be 7.5 GB for context.
Aside from that make sure your folder name doesn't contain any non-ascii symbols, it seems some unicode characters like nbsp break unity bundle loader.
Huh... well... I downloaded the full PC version and removed those ascii (or non ascii) symbols from the folder "OoT_Data" like those "~" ( I didn't found any other symbols so far so xd) and still it says 0/0 bundles :/
No the non ascii symbols was about things in your file path before the "Out of Touch", the ones that come with the game are obviously fine and needed because otherwise no one's game would work. Your best bet to get it working is to go on the discord and post screenshots.
Can someone give me a song's name?
I wonder what its name is. The one that sounds sad when you hear it.
That's not a lot to go off but you can find a few of the songs here https://www.youtube.com/@Farcrine/videos
If I had to guess do you mean this one?
https://youtu.be/LM3y-4Zgea8
oh thank you so much and you guess it right.
"The app isn't supported on your phone"
Anyone had this problem? (I have pixel 7)
The game can't support 64 bit exclusive phones at the moment. The pixel 7 can't run 32 bit Unity without jumping through some major hoops.
Any plans on it?(didn't know that 32bits still used somewhere)
Ohhh my this is a master piece cant wait for future updates. But 1 thing. I made it all the way to chapter 38 finished it but not all my extras have saved what do i do?
If you have gaps in your gallery we can provide you with a file on the Discord to unlock everything.
Make sure to rate this masterpiece appropriately ;)
it really does help with exposure.
Its rare to see a game, especially a H-Visual Novel games to be created using Unity Engine, most of H-Visual Novel games out there are created using Renpy because its much lighter and easier, also a fighting mechanic actually sounds really awesome but sadly its incomplete as for current updates, like you know, i want to bully that Cro girl through fighting, i like it also since its 3d, but i find it hillarious that the animation of the characters movement are a bit sluggy. Overall great games and stories aside from the horror and sex scene. Looking forward for future updates.
Thank you, glad you're enjoying it!
Join the gang on discord! the discussions are a ton of fun
and please make sure to rate the game
Am trying to download the Mac version and it keeps shutting down at ~5.36 gigabytes. Any advice on how to get it to work?
That's odd, if you join the Discord we can provide you with some alternative links to see if they work.
That sounds like itch.io is acting up, sometimes people have issues downloading from their servers directly.
Hello, can anyone help me? Whenever I open the game it just says bundles loaded 0/0 and never moves on?
Hop on our discord server and we can get that fixed for you:
https://discord.gg/outoftouch
A masterpiece !
A psychedelic trip with a very interesting lore (with many supernatural stuff, time shenanigans,...) that is introduced slowly, but with a lot of foreshadowing.... once you will have played it once, you will want to replay it again and again to catch all those hints ! The sex scenes are late to come because they always fit in the history and make it advance, but when they come that does strengthen massively their impact, and they are absolutely amazing.
A main theme of the game is about overcoming one's traumas. So it's an emotional rollercoaster, but in a very healthy way because, how dark some passages may be - and God now some are dark - at the end of the way there is always light at the end of the tunnel, and some characters we begin hating the most finish being the most lovable once they have overcomed the traumas that made them act so badly... The MC is a very wholesome and caring person, who always see the best in everyone, and will always put the others ones good before his, willing to take the worst risks to save them, in all the acceptations of this word... And the art ! It begin as very, very good... but the author goes on learning as the game progress, and the progression is awesome, the last chapters are really, visually speaking, a masterpiece ! But this is not only the case for the visual aspect, it's the only word I can find to describe this game : A masterpiece !
When do you get to the part when they have sex n shit
There are plenty of h-scenes in OoT, but it is a very large game and the story will always come first.
OOT is my fav abbreviation its so fun to say just like "hey have you heard of OOT?" its just so fun oot oot
There's about 20 sex scenes currently in the game, most are from chapter 23 onwards. The character development has to get to the point where the sex makes sense, but after it hits that point it's constant.
The new Prologue (you may have missed it by just a few days) already has sex, so right at the start. than we get some world building and from about chapters 15-18, there's tons of sex n shit.
Awesome to see one of my favorites so high on the Popular tab for Visual Novels tagged with Adult. Even more awesome to see it surpass not only Eternum but Harem Hotel too since those are usually always up there in the same spots!
It's pretty wild, I can hardly believe it myself.
Double check to make sure you rated the game!
Beatcha to it! I already did nearly 2 years ago, it's actually one of the few titles I've left a rating/review for
how do I update the game with the oot-win-2.63-update.zip file
and where do I put it?
That update file is for PC and Mac so just extract it and place the folders over your existing OoT 2.57ish folder.
Be aware that due to a lot of bug fixes most of the time it's better to just do a fresh install.
What is the song thats playing during the first fight
I have been informed by the powers that be that the actual version is this one - ことなる Way - Dreaming Of You
played like the first 30min and im sitting here like this looks like its going to be good
It gets way better, promise.
Make sure you play the new prologue if you didn't! i think it came out within days of your message
and rate the game please!
WHO TF IS LINDSY AND HOW DID SHE AHEGO OUT OF HER MIND IS IT LIKE A DRUG?!?!?
jesus herald christ i love you thank you for making this game
god you are just pure fuckin comedic gold "all i did was find the inviting assholes of the screwer and give them the long pegging of the law" epic jamie moment.