They contain different assets but to run the game you need to run all of them. Entire game is ~7.2GB on Android (while normal limit on app size is 2GB). After completely installing the game you can remove them.
Never commented on anything on Itch before, but your story is just amazing. Not many H-scenes, but your intent was to get readers; I get it. Great story and keep up the great work. I would to praise you more, but "I'm out of time".
Poco X6 Pro should support it. Are you using custom ROM? Official Xiaomi HyperOS/MIUI ROMs should have Tango translator which translates 32 bit instructions into 64 bit allowing to run 32 bit apps despite not having native hardware support. Most AOSP based custom ROMs don’t include Tango so wouldn’t run apps.
edit: nevermind, apparently Poco doesn’t include Tango binary translator for some reason, at least from what I read.
I did mention that it’s possible on some phone models but it’s definitely not a process for average phone user. After a quick search I couldn’t find if anyone made a ROM or patch for S24 that allows running 32 bit apps so you’re most likely out of luck.
drat. I was hoping. I guess I'll have to wait until it'll be made, or switch to my laptop. Its an antique though, so I don't hold hopes the game would work.
It should work on your laptop. I was testing game performance on my 12 year old ASUS ultrabook with integrated graphics that couldn’t even run Hearthstone when it released. Unless it’s something even more ancient/weaker - you should be fine, maybe there would be some hiccups when loading images/videos but in general it works well. The only exception is that if you’re using Linux and running it under wine and your hardware doesn’t support Vulkan you will need to mod the game by extracting video bundles, transcoding to vp8/vorbis webms and rebuilding them in Unity 2019.4, otherwise videos will likely not work at all or will be completely messed up.
When I've downloaded it, I thought it will be some hentai stuff. I've found a gem. A story so ... I don't even know how to describe it. I was so hooked up, that I've almost detached myself from everything, just to know what happens next. It is one of greatest stories I've ever read, and trust me, I've read lot.
My android treats the installers like apps, and tries to install the installers as apps. But then it says that it isn't compatible. What am I supposed to do?
Because they are apps. They have the same bundle id as game, so when they extract all assets inside and install game it will just replace installer on your phone and you can delete installer apk files. If it says it’s incompatible it’s one of the two - either you have new android and it complains about incompatibility due to 32 bit but you can ignore and still run them OR your phone doesn’t support 32 bit at all, then you’re out of luck, there are some ways to run 32 bits apps but they are complicated and don’t work on every phone. Eventually there will be 64 bit build but likely not this year.
Just wanted to give you props for this. Not sure if this was your idea or if you simply became aware of the concept and implemented it, but this is such a clever way to go about installing a large game like this on Android.
In case anyone reading this doesn't get what I'm talking about:
The installer is split into five APKs. Each APK contains the same (of at least, a very similar) binary/executable, and uses the same internal ID. So when you install the first APK, it installs an Out of Touch "installer" app, which then extracts ~1.5GB of the game's files to an arbitrary location in your file system. Once done, you then install the second APK, which overwrites (or, technically, "updates") the previous installer. When you open the installer app again, it extracts the second ~1.5GB of the game data. Rinse and repeat until all five (at the time of writing) installers have been run. At this point, it then installs the actual Out of Touch game APK, which it extracted from the 5 installers, which overwrites itself ("updates" itself), replacing the installer with the actual game's binary itself.
There's a ton of benefits from doing the this way, but one of the biggest benefits is that it can guarantee that none of the files are corrupted, and it saves the player the hassle of needing to extract a large (or many smaller) archive (.zip, .7z, .Rae, .tar.gz, etc.) into a specific folder specified by the game, which is how many other VNs of this size handle it on Android.
There are, however, security issues with this method, though one of these issues exists even with the games that use manual archive extraction. Some Android devices won't even allow you to run apps that use the older API version, which is necessary for an app to be able to access arbitrary locations in your device's storage (and this is likely to become more and more common with newer devices). More importantly, though, apps using this older API do present a significant security risk. This security risk is only made more significant by permitting the Out of Touch app to install APKs itself; the result is an app with complete access to your device's file system that also has the ability to install other apps. That said, that isn't really that big of a deal, since the user still has to accept the installation of a given app (as in, installing an app can't be completely automated). Personally, I trust that these devs aren't about to go doing anything shady.
In any case, this is a super clever way of handling this problem, and regardless of whether you came up with the idea or not, I just wanted to compliment you on your ingenuity! Super neat.
Splitting it into installers wasn’t my idea, but the current implementation of installers is mine and the idea to have it replace itself with the game is also my idea. Original ones didn’t share ID, so they had to be manually removed from the device, they required running in a specific order and didn’t have any built in checks for already installed assets and didn’t install the game itself at the end. It’s not really a bigger security risk than manually installing the app because android doesn’t give permanent permission to install apps like for example you can get for file system access with legacy API. Instead access has to be requested every time you try to install app or at least that was my understanding when I researched on how to do it. I do plan to try an even better way eventually if possible that doesn’t even require legacy permissions or app installing permissions (although I would still prefer to keep using file system access for user convenience with saves) but I haven’t really started working on it so I don’t know if it will work. I’d completely get rid of legacy permissions if android didn’t make it almost impossible for regular users to access app internal storage without using PC/rooted phone.
Because of how Android works, the full game has to be split amongst multipler installers. So each installer contains separate parts of the game that all get put back together.
Honestly played like 3 days straight to finish this game, u are an artist. But honestly sometimes I felt like I was on an acid trip while playing this game, in a good way XD
Then what’s the problem? The reason game is split like that is because android doesn’t allow apps larger than 2GB. Actual game is a single app, installers delete themselves after game is installed.
It’s downloading its own content after installing. Unless you want to pay for CDN for us this is not an option we can afford.
It has larger than 2GB apk. This is technically possible because APK files are zip archives and zip archives can be as big as 4GB and packed with zip64 extensions allow nearly infinite size. The problem is - this is non-standard for APK and not ZIP files. Officially Google only supports 2GB or less APK files and so do most phones. Some may be able to open and install these files but most phones won’t. In fact any app that is published on Google store has even stricter limitation - APK size can’t exceed 100MB, we don’t care about this limit because we are not publishing on play store. Still not an option because this will fail to install on most phones.
guys, what kind of song starts with "bad guys... *illegible words*, good guys..." is clearly vaporwave, but I couldn't find the song (even in a playlist with music from the author). as an example, where it is used is Chapter 28, during Ashley's game
If you mean arcs - no. Chapter 44 is the end of Teresa arc, chapter 51 will be end of Kieran arc. If you mean chapters - then yes, next chapter will be 47.
Honestly, the best settings screen of all time. also starts at 20% master volume: Godsend. Includes precise time values for the text delay and auto forward speed for a better understanding of how long, rather than the standard “move sliders until you figure out “Roughly” what they do.
It technically still “roughly” in case of “extra time per word”, but it is exact for other timer. Because words have different sizes it’s closer to “extra time per average word”, for example it will not spend as much time on word “I” but spend longer on very long words. After testing I found that to be much more accurately match the reading speed after adjusting without the need to manually advance because it takes too long or rollback because I couldn’t read it fast enough. But it generally pretty accurately represents how long it will take for average sentences per word.
You did great, my guy. It is by far the best settings menu I've ever seen in one of these VNs, for so, so many reasons. Unlike just about every other VN I've ever played, I was actually able to configure literally everything I wanted perfectly. Auto is actually usable, volume is configured just to my liking, transition died too, it's great. Though I do wish "Global Transitions" would have some kind of tooltip on Android (dunno if it does on PC?) because it's pretty unclear what that actually does.
Sorry for late reply. I just didn’t know how to better word it at the time and never got back to changing it. I will add better and more detailed descriptions with new UI. That setting makes transition speed apply globally, by default it only apply to single image transitions with default timing, if global is enabled that makes it apply to every transition, even with non-default timing or sequence of images.
For initial install yes, except for update only. Order in which you run them doesn’t matter, just that you run all 5 of them. For future updates you can just download update installer, as long as you didn’t miss updates it will update to the latest, if you missed some updates it will tell you which installers you need to download to update.
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Best game ever, will show to friends (I apologize for accidentally posting the exact same comment on the update post before this)
the game download isnt working. it keeps stopping at around 90 percent
Try using download manager to recover from failed download. If that doesn’t help you can try mirrors on f95.
Lo estoy instalando esperó q por lo que pesa venga en español XD
si venia en español?
What's the difference between installer 1,2 and 3?
They're part's 1, 2, 3,4 , & 5. You need all of them to install that game as it's a big one.
They contain different assets but to run the game you need to run all of them. Entire game is ~7.2GB on Android (while normal limit on app size is 2GB). After completely installing the game you can remove them.
Never commented on anything on Itch before, but your story is just amazing. Not many H-scenes, but your intent was to get readers; I get it. Great story and keep up the great work. I would to praise you more, but "I'm out of time".
why there are no animation in the sex scene its like fliping comic book?
Man you're going to be shocked when you learn what Visual novels developed from...
Anyway the latest patreon version has started the retroactive addition of animation in sex scenes for the first 12 chapters.
Game looks super cool but before i start it, i wanna ask how much story is covered till now(like in 0-100%).. there's 47 chaps, that's why i ask
100 chapters are planned, but chapters 1-15 are very short compared to the rest. So less than 50% but it’s also very long (425k words, 41.5k renders).
When's the next chap 48 update coming?
Chapter 48 is out now for patrons and will be public on July 1st.
For patrons came a few hours ago.
best vn here!
This game is super enjoyable! when are we meeting that goth girl at the park tho.. I'm at chapter 35 and she have only appeared... 3 times? I think?
The game looks too good and I was going to try it but it is not compatible with my Poco X6 Pro cell phone :(
Poco X6 Pro should support it. Are you using custom ROM? Official Xiaomi HyperOS/MIUI ROMs should have Tango translator which translates 32 bit instructions into 64 bit allowing to run 32 bit apps despite not having native hardware support. Most AOSP based custom ROMs don’t include Tango so wouldn’t run apps.
edit: nevermind, apparently Poco doesn’t include Tango binary translator for some reason, at least from what I read.
i'm using poco f3 and it runs normally
I made experimental 64 bit build so if you still want to try to play, it is on discord.
Thanks :)
Trying to install the chapter 47 and it doesnt want to work on my android.
I saw a previous post saying theres a way to possibly make it work. Does anyone know what to do for that?
For reference, I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra.
I really love this game, and have been playing it for quite a while. I'd hate to miss out.
I did mention that it’s possible on some phone models but it’s definitely not a process for average phone user. After a quick search I couldn’t find if anyone made a ROM or patch for S24 that allows running 32 bit apps so you’re most likely out of luck.
drat. I was hoping. I guess I'll have to wait until it'll be made, or switch to my laptop. Its an antique though, so I don't hold hopes the game would work.
My luck
Also. Thank you for the response. I appreciate you looking into it for me
It should work on your laptop. I was testing game performance on my 12 year old ASUS ultrabook with integrated graphics that couldn’t even run Hearthstone when it released. Unless it’s something even more ancient/weaker - you should be fine, maybe there would be some hiccups when loading images/videos but in general it works well. The only exception is that if you’re using Linux and running it under wine and your hardware doesn’t support Vulkan you will need to mod the game by extracting video bundles, transcoding to vp8/vorbis webms and rebuilding them in Unity 2019.4, otherwise videos will likely not work at all or will be completely messed up.
well, I am not running Linux so it should be ok. I'll give it a try, and again. Thank you for getting back to me. Its greatly appreciated
please what song is used when chapter 1, Jamie waiting for CJ at the station?
There's a playlist of oot here in yt https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSjFmFIO-Pczns_3HvqdwywNrp0qvXPc-&si=j9etRh4W...
When I've downloaded it, I thought it will be some hentai stuff. I've found a gem. A story so ... I don't even know how to describe it. I was so hooked up, that I've almost detached myself from everything, just to know what happens next. It is one of greatest stories I've ever read, and trust me, I've read lot.
After about 4 months of playing this game i can say that this is the best vn i have ever played. Literal peak cinema
Can I change the MC name on Android?
The MC's name is fixed. MC really isn't a self-insert anyway.
Mc name can't be changed cuz it's already fix
is it animated?
i don't know for 45 and beyond but its not
There are some animations here and there but none for H-scenes right now. (i've only played up to chapter 44 I believe)
Animations for H-scenes are apparently planned to be added in at a later date.
They are now present in the prologue and Ch12 with the new update that is available to patrons and will be going public on July 1st.
your novel looks amazing!
Love game
My android treats the installers like apps, and tries to install the installers as apps. But then it says that it isn't compatible. What am I supposed to do?
Because they are apps. They have the same bundle id as game, so when they extract all assets inside and install game it will just replace installer on your phone and you can delete installer apk files. If it says it’s incompatible it’s one of the two - either you have new android and it complains about incompatibility due to 32 bit but you can ignore and still run them OR your phone doesn’t support 32 bit at all, then you’re out of luck, there are some ways to run 32 bits apps but they are complicated and don’t work on every phone. Eventually there will be 64 bit build but likely not this year.
Well crap. Thanks for telling me.
Just wanted to give you props for this. Not sure if this was your idea or if you simply became aware of the concept and implemented it, but this is such a clever way to go about installing a large game like this on Android.
In case anyone reading this doesn't get what I'm talking about:
The installer is split into five APKs. Each APK contains the same (of at least, a very similar) binary/executable, and uses the same internal ID. So when you install the first APK, it installs an Out of Touch "installer" app, which then extracts ~1.5GB of the game's files to an arbitrary location in your file system. Once done, you then install the second APK, which overwrites (or, technically, "updates") the previous installer. When you open the installer app again, it extracts the second ~1.5GB of the game data. Rinse and repeat until all five (at the time of writing) installers have been run. At this point, it then installs the actual Out of Touch game APK, which it extracted from the 5 installers, which overwrites itself ("updates" itself), replacing the installer with the actual game's binary itself.
There's a ton of benefits from doing the this way, but one of the biggest benefits is that it can guarantee that none of the files are corrupted, and it saves the player the hassle of needing to extract a large (or many smaller) archive (.zip, .7z, .Rae, .tar.gz, etc.) into a specific folder specified by the game, which is how many other VNs of this size handle it on Android.
There are, however, security issues with this method, though one of these issues exists even with the games that use manual archive extraction. Some Android devices won't even allow you to run apps that use the older API version, which is necessary for an app to be able to access arbitrary locations in your device's storage (and this is likely to become more and more common with newer devices). More importantly, though, apps using this older API do present a significant security risk. This security risk is only made more significant by permitting the Out of Touch app to install APKs itself; the result is an app with complete access to your device's file system that also has the ability to install other apps. That said, that isn't really that big of a deal, since the user still has to accept the installation of a given app (as in, installing an app can't be completely automated). Personally, I trust that these devs aren't about to go doing anything shady.
In any case, this is a super clever way of handling this problem, and regardless of whether you came up with the idea or not, I just wanted to compliment you on your ingenuity! Super neat.
Splitting it into installers wasn’t my idea, but the current implementation of installers is mine and the idea to have it replace itself with the game is also my idea. Original ones didn’t share ID, so they had to be manually removed from the device, they required running in a specific order and didn’t have any built in checks for already installed assets and didn’t install the game itself at the end. It’s not really a bigger security risk than manually installing the app because android doesn’t give permanent permission to install apps like for example you can get for file system access with legacy API. Instead access has to be requested every time you try to install app or at least that was my understanding when I researched on how to do it. I do plan to try an even better way eventually if possible that doesn’t even require legacy permissions or app installing permissions (although I would still prefer to keep using file system access for user convenience with saves) but I haven’t really started working on it so I don’t know if it will work. I’d completely get rid of legacy permissions if android didn’t make it almost impossible for regular users to access app internal storage without using PC/rooted phone.
I made experimental 64 bit build, it is available on discord if you still want to try it.
I need some sort of Spotify playlist or smth with this game soundtrack cause why is it so good
Closest you'll get since half of it's custom commissions,
Youtube Soundtrack
I may sound stupid, but what's the difference between android installers from 1 to 5?
Because of how Android works, the full game has to be split amongst multipler installers. So each installer contains separate parts of the game that all get put back together.
That makes sense now. Thanks.
This game emotional asf ong
there is absolutely no way to change mc's name?
Just Alt + F4
And For Android?
Press and hold power button.
I'm lucky af to be named chad irl
What the fuck. I have no idea what the fuck is going on. I'm just vibing, is this what it feels like to be high?
no, but its definitely uniquely transfixing
Honestly played like 3 days straight to finish this game, u are an artist. But honestly sometimes I felt like I was on an acid trip while playing this game, in a good way XD
Genuine peak dude i have only played for like 15 minutes, shits amazing
you should keep going, it only gets better from there
played it all last week, it's so fucking good dude, I never thought I'd want to give a hug to ecchi characters in a VN before but it's just so good
How to download this game on Android?
Instructions are above download. You need to download installers 1-5.
Do I need to install ALL of the installers?
1,2,3,4, & 5 for a fresh install. Big game, 40k renders
Shame, from what I can see, it's more advanced and higher quality than your average visual novel.
Then what’s the problem? The reason game is split like that is because android doesn’t allow apps larger than 2GB. Actual game is a single app, installers delete themselves after game is installed.
The initial .apk cannot exceed 2gb, a game can download however much more it wants after installation.
Unless you feel like giving us $1000 a month to pay for bandwidth to enable direct downloads, that's what you're getting.
It one of the 2:
It’s downloading its own content after installing. Unless you want to pay for CDN for us this is not an option we can afford.
It has larger than 2GB apk. This is technically possible because APK files are zip archives and zip archives can be as big as 4GB and packed with zip64 extensions allow nearly infinite size. The problem is - this is non-standard for APK and not ZIP files. Officially Google only supports 2GB or less APK files and so do most phones. Some may be able to open and install these files but most phones won’t. In fact any app that is published on Google store has even stricter limitation - APK size can’t exceed 100MB, we don’t care about this limit because we are not publishing on play store. Still not an option because this will fail to install on most phones.
gotta admit she may be a bit insane but i love Cro so much xD
does the game contain ntr? I really hope not since looking at the images and description of the game I was surprised
No
Do you plan to add a Spanish translation?
Any plans to add a chapter select? Would help me out in replaying to remember story.
Most likely.
Fuck me jogging I haven't laughed like that in a while. Thank you father
guys, what kind of song starts with "bad guys... *illegible words*, good guys..." is clearly vaporwave, but I couldn't find the song (even in a playlist with music from the author). as an example, where it is used is Chapter 28, during Ashley's game
Im pretty sure you're talking about this one, I looked for it for a while as well.
CM「ずっとずっと。新留小学校」編（全編）— Phoenix #2772
Its from this album
MAXELL カセットテープ XL 渡辺美里 15" 1980-90
https://phoenix2772.bandcamp.com/album/maxell-xl-15-1980-90
thank you, brother!
Is 46 p2 the end of another section? I'm waiting to play past the end of the last section so I don't leave off in the middle of one.
If you mean arcs - no. Chapter 44 is the end of Teresa arc, chapter 51 will be end of Kieran arc. If you mean chapters - then yes, next chapter will be 47.
arcs is the word i was looking for, thanks you
Sorry but, is there any anal scene ?
One sex scene teasing it, with the implication more is coming.
Hope they will add it in the next update
And in Tropicali ? Is there any ? (*﹏*;)
Honestly, the best settings screen of all time. also starts at 20% master volume: Godsend. Includes precise time values for the text delay and auto forward speed for a better understanding of how long, rather than the standard “move sliders until you figure out “Roughly” what they do.
It technically still “roughly” in case of “extra time per word”, but it is exact for other timer. Because words have different sizes it’s closer to “extra time per average word”, for example it will not spend as much time on word “I” but spend longer on very long words. After testing I found that to be much more accurately match the reading speed after adjusting without the need to manually advance because it takes too long or rollback because I couldn’t read it fast enough. But it generally pretty accurately represents how long it will take for average sentences per word.
You did great, my guy. It is by far the best settings menu I've ever seen in one of these VNs, for so, so many reasons. Unlike just about every other VN I've ever played, I was actually able to configure literally everything I wanted perfectly. Auto is actually usable, volume is configured just to my liking, transition died too, it's great. Though I do wish "Global Transitions" would have some kind of tooltip on Android (dunno if it does on PC?) because it's pretty unclear what that actually does.
Sorry for late reply. I just didn’t know how to better word it at the time and never got back to changing it. I will add better and more detailed descriptions with new UI. That setting makes transition speed apply globally, by default it only apply to single image transitions with default timing, if global is enabled that makes it apply to every transition, even with non-default timing or sequence of images.
good
do you have to download ALL installers and run them one by one?
For initial install yes, except for update only. Order in which you run them doesn’t matter, just that you run all 5 of them. For future updates you can just download update installer, as long as you didn’t miss updates it will update to the latest, if you missed some updates it will tell you which installers you need to download to update.
i see i see thank you